[p2p-hackers] SHA1 broken?

Nick Lothian nlothian at educationau.edu.au
Thu Feb 17 21:47:36 UTC 2005


> > Dan Kaminsky runs over a number of potential attacks that 
> are relevant 
> > to P2P -- see:
> >
> >   http://paketto.doxpara.com
> > ...
> > Here's another example from the cryptography list that convinced a  
> > doubter...
> 
> 	Certainly looks cute. Now correct me if I'm not getting 
> something here - but isn't it true that in order to mount an 
> attack one has to replace the "good" code (content, whatever) 
> by the "bad" code, and the absolutely necessary condition is 
> that the "good" code also has to be created by an attacker? 
> So an attacker creates "good" code, gives it to security 
> experts for verification, and then after they are done, 
> replaces it with "bad code", right? 
> 
> 	Isn't it a bit far-fetched? Do we have a somewhat more 
> realistic attack scenario? I just cannot imagine all this 
> happening in real life. Real-life breakdowns always tend to 
> be way simpler than their theoretical scenarios (and totally 
> unexpected, too).
> 

According to some reports some anti-spyware tools currently use MD5
hashes to find known-bad software (See
http://malektips.com/microsoft_antispyware_0007.html). It's not hard to
imagine spyware manufactures modifying common opensource applications
(eg: p2p software) so they include spyware and yet still have the same
hash.

Nick


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