[p2p-hackers] Online Codes

stew "stewbagz" mercer stewbagz at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 10:00:42 UTC 2005


I was wondering about this as well. It appears that there was a build
of rateless-copy and rateless-tunnel that was done with the cygwin
tool kit, and that appears to have caused some complications. if you
go to

http://www.rateless.com/download_copy.html you can see the links to
the binaries, but I've not been able to download anything from it.

They were supposedly writing some RFCs for it too, but there is no
sign of them either ...






On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:52:41 -0800, Michael Parker <mgp at ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know what happened to the "Online Codes" Sourceforge
> project, listed at http://sourceforge.net/projects/onlinecodes? I'm
> asking here for two reasons: First, because Online Codes [1, 2] would be
> a great tool in peer-to-peer applications, so I thought someone here
> might have followed the project while it was still active. Second, I've
> written a solid library implementation of the Online Codes
> encoding/decoding algorithm described in the aforementioned papers.
> Alas, only after I implemented it did I find out that the authors'
> company, Rateless, had patented it (or, so they allude to on their web
> site www.rateless.com, Digital Fountain owned the IP). I was thinking of
> releasing it under the GPL, but now that I've discovered patents are
> involved that seems like a very bad idea. So I was wondering if the
> Online Codes project broke up because of this, and whether I would get
> sued into oblivion if I ever made this code available? IANAL, but is it
> illegal to write such code and distribute it as a library on the net
> (after all, it is straight from their papers) to elucidate how the
> algorithm works, or only illegal to include the library in any working
> software program?
> 
> Regards,
> Michael Parker
> 
> [1] http://www.rateless.com/oncodes.pdf
> [2] http://www.rateless.com/msd.ps
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