[linux-elitists] Proposal: Roster accessible to subscribers
D. Joe Anderson
deejoe at etrumeus.com
Thu Mar 26 11:09:08 PDT 2009
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:33:00AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting D. Joe Anderson (deejoe at etrumeus.com):
> > It seems pretty clear-cut to me. Don has made a commitment that
> > he'll keep subscribers' addresses confidential.
> First, I cannot recall Don ever saying that
Perhaps you haven't read the list info page, then:
"If you are a lurker, your address is confidential. "
> -- and especially not saying [strawman ellided]
I didn't claim he promised to defend the confidentiality to the
ends of the earth. It's a simple statement. The extent to
which he wishes to honor it is up to him.
> However, you are posing a blatantly false dilemma:
Again, wrong. I offered a way to honor the commitment while
still changing the policy. I'm almost sorry it doesn't get you
what you want.
> Don can announce on-list "In a week, March 31, I will be changing this
> mailing list's subscriber roster from viewable by listadmin only to
> viewable by subscribers. If you wish to conceal the fact of your
> membership and your e-mail address from all other subscribers (other
> than the listadmin), you'll need to change your subscriber option
> "Conceal yourself from subscriber list?" from "no" to "yes". Five days
> later, reminder. Seven days, flip the option.
He could do a lot of things.
> > A reasonable way forward would be to set all current
> > subscriptions to "hide"....
> Yes, we need to inconvenience everyone for the sake of theoretical
> subscribers who have been invited to speak up but have said nothing, and
> whom nobody can find. I'm sure that's "reasonable" in _some_ universe.
I don't think *everyone* is inconvenience either way. I think
most people don't a damn. Your characteristic over-the-top
tantrum indicates that you do. Film at 11.
> Essentially, you are assuming that concealed is the norm,
Not the norm, but the stated, status quo policy. And I don't
assume it, I know it, because I can read.
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