[linux-elitists] Gentoo, linux users too can be racers
Mon Oct 29 20:20:50 PDT 2007
On Monday 29 October 2007 17:46:42 Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who="Peter Lowe">
> > Thank you! You have just expressed something that I've always found
> > utterly annoying but never thought too hard about (the overall experience
> > being something I prefer to forget), so have never really been able to
> > put my finger on. I FUCKING HATE IT when I try and install something
> > like, I dunno, Samba, and end up with CUPS, X, and KDE - they're not
> > fuckin *dependencies*! They're just commonly used with the associated
> > app! Arg.
> Wow, which silly distro does that?
> - Jeff
Neither my example of a word processor nor Peter talking about his chain is
meant to be a literal. This is a parable like instance known as an analogy.
A good example from PCLinuxOS (I'm workng with it at the moment.) is that
Kmail requires 5 different PIM packages that use Kmail's libs. They don't
provide libs. They are in fact a part of the full KDE PIM suite. Oh and
Ubuntu requires CUPS if you install Samba. RH requires that you install X
(even if during the install you tell it not to install X or any of the X
config tools.) No matter how hard you try in RH a minimal install is around
800mb (pre hacking) Very few distro's provide a small base to start from.
In the effort to provide maximum customer service they have started creating
problems with forced installation.
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