[linux-elitists] Gentoo, linux users too can be racers
Sun Oct 28 22:49:28 PDT 2007
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:19:46PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
> 3. RPM and deb both need a logical "OR" for dependencies. (deb may have a
> crude form) The ability for me as a packager to say "depends on ImageMagick >
> XX or imagemagick > XX or Imagemagick > Xx would really make it easy to have
> one package for 3 variants. In fact this is often the only thing keeping me
> from building a single package is the absence of either a logical or, or,
> standardized nameing.
Deb supports logical OR. It looks like:
Depends: ..., debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0
What's crude about it?
Debian also has standardized naming, of course.
> 4. Forced removal of packages I want to keep. Debian is the worst here. I
> install X that requires Y and Z ... later when I remove X it says that Y and
> Z are orphaned and need to be removed ... Ubuntu variant of Debian gets real
> insistant that I remove Y and Z. I want to keep them so I have to remove
> them.... and then re-install them Once I do debian says "Ok they aren't part
> of a dependency chain they are ok. *sigh*
>From the beginning of aptitude.1, regarding 'aptitude install':
Not every package listed on the command line has to be installed;
you can tell aptitude to do something different with a package by
appending an "override specifier" to the name of the package. ...
The following override specifiers are available:
<package>&m: Mark <package> as having been manually installed.
So 'aptitude install Y&m Z&m; aptitude remove X', or even 'aptitude
remove X Y&m Z&m'. (There's some way to access this stuff in the
interactive UI, I believe involving the 'm' key, but I'm feeling too
elite to read any more of the manual right now.)
> 5. Forced dependencies. Were there is no real dependency (like a lib) but
> instead it's "Well people who like X also want Y and Z.) Yes I want a text
> editor and no I don't want a full office suite. Why can't I install a word
> processor without a full office suite.
'aptitude install openoffice.org-writer'. See also Depends vs.
Recommends vs. Suggests.
> Ok.. rant off ... I feel better back to my hole in the wall. I really need to
> make my next box LFS again
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Outside the ordinary range
Of what are called statistics."
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