[linux-elitists] Mailman Must Die
Sun Oct 28 02:23:39 PDT 2007
On Friday 26 October 2007 23:43:06 Modus Operandi wrote:
> In the immortal words of James Sparenberg <firstname.lastname@example.org>:
> > On Friday 26 October 2007 08:31:56 Teh Entar-Nick wrote:
> > > Matthew Galgoci:
> > > > > Really? You can configure it not to completely bomb out your
> > > > > dist-upgrades?
> > > >
> > > > Really!
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Red Hat, Inc
> > >
> > > Somehow I doubt you ever do dist-upgrades. You probably reinstall your
> > > boxes from scratch every time you need a newer copy of firefox.
> > Gentoo! (sorry couldn't resist.)
> Ah, Gentoo does have its advantages. Basically, you can upgrade every
> package on the system (the equivalent of a dist-upgrade) every day if
> you feel like it without worrying about it. The caveat is, you can't
> be a moron about setting it up. I also like the fact that you can
> emerge multiple packages at once, unlike apt-get which enforces a lock
> on dpkg so you can't spawn multiple concurrent instances.
> And,'tis true, RPM-based distros are notoriously brittle when
> upgrading. (I am still using RHEL 4 for a production box somewhere,
> even though I would benefit greatly from features of RHEL 5, because
> I don't want to risk the upgrade until I can set it up on a new box!)
> Does anybody have success stories about version jumps using RPM-based
Actually yes. RPM + URPMI on Mandriva/Mandrake. I've in the past been able
to upgrade and then reboot a Mandriva box into the new "version" without
problems My longest string was a 9.2 to 10.2 run without a re-install
broken only by replacement of the box due to PSU emitting strange blue smoke.
I've done YUM upgrades with CentOS from 4.0 up to 4.5 without a problem.
(including kernel changes) and without losing data/non-CentoOS environments.
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