WMaker as a golden mean (was Re: [linux-elitists] Re: GNOME > you)

Jim Richardson warlock@eskimo.com
Mon Jan 5 22:50:59 PST 2004

On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:37:25PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
><quote who="Jim Richardson">
>> Sorry, pushing the panel to the side, in a vertical orientation is not a
>> great idea, the various text widgets like clock applet, weather temp, etc,
>> don't deal well with it at all.
>Yep, those are already in bugzilla, and ought to be fixed.
>> If you've added an "applications/actions" menu item, the resultant
>> vertical panel takes up about 20% of my screenwidth. 
>Add a 'Main Menu' icon instead of using the menu bar applet.
>> GNOME panel is geared toward a horizontal layout. It doesn't work well
>> vertically at the moment. 
>Hmm, there are a couple of annoying bugs, but in many cases it works well.
>> Further, it's really easy to add an item to the dock, just drag the icon
>> there. That doesn't seem to work with the panel, you have to navigate
>> through the menus. With the dock, if you no longer want the icon there,
>> just drag it away. 
>Yeah, and this is an area of interest of mine. We have some execution model
>problems that OS X (and WindowMaker) deal with differently, although I'm not
>sure we'd duplicate their approach. I'm not happy that we're still working
>with the main menu concept. Although it suits Windows refugees, and was a
>running assumption of the time (everyone did it, including Classic Mac OS,
>Windows, etc), it has caused lots and lots of problems (see the shared menu
>spec on freedesktop.org), and there are other models we could work with
>while still providing user interface parity with other systems (for people
>who need their main menu or feel completely lost).
>> So far, I like the URI handling in GNOME terminal, and some of the panels
>> functions are nice. But so far, it hasn't convinced me to stick around
>> after the tryout. We'll see, there's still most of a week before I decide
>> to go back to WindowMaker or not. 
>It's nice to keep hearing about your problems with it and helping out or
>explaining where I can. :-)

It's nice to have a discussion rather than watching a flamefest. 

Jim Richardson     http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
The race isn't always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong,
But it's the safest way to bet.
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