Sue your ISP for DoS attack (was Re: [linux-elitists] dealing with Swen)

Jay Sulzberger jays@panix.com
Thu Sep 25 15:50:42 PDT 2003



On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 07:13:26PM +0100, Geoff Lane (zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk) wrote:
> >
> > As far as I can tell, in dealing with the Swen storm, the general
> > recommendation of the list is to just accept and /dev/null the worm emails
> > via .procmail or some other local filter.
> >
> > The reasons are
> >
> > 	* responding in any manner just multiples emails without any
> > 	corresponding reduction in the trash emails.
> >
> > 	* using the sendmail access.db (or equivalent in other MTAs) to 550
> > 	incoming Swen email is not helpful if your machine uses a peer mail
> > 	router as the down line machine will just generate a "cannot
> > 	deliver" message and direct it to the apparent sender (I'm guessing
> > 	that a store&forward model is used by the MTA in this instance.)
> >
> > Correct?
> >
> > Much as I hate to do it, if accepting and /dev/null'ing 200Mb of trash email
> > a day helps, that's what I'll do (I'm on a wires only, unmetered ASDL line
> > so it's not much of a hardship. But I really want to LART _somebody_.)
> >
> > (Time for a class action against Microsoft for supplying gratuitously
> > insecure operating systems and applications without a modicum of ring
> > fencing to prevent involuntary, antisocial behaviour when connected to a
> > network.)
>
> Yes.  Emphatically yes, but I'd like to make a second suggestion.
>
> However, since receiving *900* spams, Swen posts, and associated viral
> crud (this is what's in my Spam folder, I haven't analyzed the contents
> yet though eyeball says it's mostly Swen), between 0500 and 1530 today,
> more than a week after this crap started, and after I've *already*
> posted to my ISP a request that this crap be blocked.  That's 125 MiB of
> mail.  Dialup eamil is *dead*.  Not server based.  Dialup pop cannot
> handle this crap.
>
> I'm seriously considering suing my own ISP for a DoS attack.  They can
> pick this crap out and dump it.  Why don't they?
>
> Peace.
>
> --
> Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com>        http://kmself.home.netcom.com/

Do not sue.  Design, build, sell a better email system.

oo--JS.



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