gconf brain death (was Re: [linux-elitists] Yet another mozilla atrocity)
Karsten M. Self
Wed Oct 1 02:36:20 PDT 2003
on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:53:05AM +1000, Martin Pool (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2003, "Karsten M. Self" <email@example.com> wrote:
> > Best I can tell, gconf is largely bug-for-bug compatible on all
> > points, though I admit my aquaintance with it is quite casual.
> I earnestly hope this spawns a GconfTroll on Slashdot. The
> combination of just enough truth to make it plausible, self-righteous
> ignorance, and criticism of any passing similarity to Windows would be
> right at home.
- I'm hardly a naive user. I don't follow GNOME closely. I don't,
for the most part, use it. I run a WindowMaker desktop, and a
couple of applications are, possibly, GNOME related (I don't know, I
don't care). Galeon, Gabber, Pan. Possibly Gnumeric and Abiword.
For the most part, the GNOME overhead gets in my way. I'm equal
opportunity: I don't particularly care for KDE either.
- I've been on and around legacy MS Windows systems for a long time.
I've watched what the Registry started as. Though I tossed out my
copy of _The Microsoft Windows NT Resource Kit_ a couple of years
ago in a move, I seem to recall the comment that you'd never have to
edit the registry directly. From O'Reilly's _Windows NT In A
[The Registry] replaces the AUTOEXEC.BAT, CONFIG.SYS, and
WIN.INI files...For the most part, you will no longer be able to
edit system configuration files with text editors.
WNTiaN, page 2
> > Is anyone familiar with a curses or command-line gconf editor?
> $ gconf TAB TAB DING
> Huh, 'gconftool'. Who would of thought of looking there?
And what's your basis for assuming I hadn't looked?
[karsten@superego:karsten]$ apt-cache search gconf ; echo; apropos gconf
libapache-dbilogconfig-perl - Apache::DBILogConfig: Logs access information in a DBI database
drivel - A LiveJournal client for the GNOME desktop
gconf - GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools)
gconf-editor - An editor for the GConf configuration system.
gconf2 - GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools, for GNOME2)
libgconf-dev - GNOME configuration database system development files.
libgconf11 - GNOME configuration database system libraries
libgconf2-4 - GNOME configuration database system libraries (for GNOME2)
libgconf2-dev - GNOME configuration database system development files. (for GNOME2)
lpkg - Newton MessagePad PDA Package Loader
gstreamer-gconf - GConf support for GStreamer
libgconfmm2.0-1c102 - C++ wrappers for GConf2 (shared library)
libgconfmm2.0-dev - C++ wrappers for GConf2 (development files)
libinti-gconf-dev - GConf bindings for Inti - development files
libinti-gconf-doc - GConf bindings for Inti - documentation
libinti-gconf1.0 - GConf bindings for Inti - shared libraries
gconf-editor (1) - No manpage for this program, utility or function.
gconfd-1 (1) - No manpage for this program, utility or function.
gconfigger (1) - Tool to change/read GNOME configuration entry.
gconftool (1) - No manpage for this program, utility or function.
gconftool-1 (1) - No manpage for this program, utility or function.
Note GNOME's blatent disrespect of following the 30 year-old standard of
providing manpages for packages.
Before you try to tell me about info:
[karsten@superego:karsten]$ info --apropos gconf
info: No available info files have "gconf" in their indices.
> $ gconftool-2 -R /apps/metacity
> $ gconftool-2 -g /apps/metacity/general/visual_bell_type
> One way in which gconf is superior to traditional dotfiles is that
> change notifications are broadcast, rather than relying on restarting
> the program or the user reloading their configuration.
This is a program/application issue, not a fundamental advantage of one
system over the other. gconf may be able to utilize sockets rather than
watching files, but the fundamental problem isn't insurmountable.
> For example:
> $ gconftool --set --type=string /apps/metacity/general/theme Crux
> Writing an emacs mode to edit the gconf database by calling gconftool
> is a 2-star exercise for the reader.
> More information, linked from the first google hit for "gconf":
And this helps me on my offline, partially configured, but fully capable
of serving up manpages system how?
Karsten M. Self <firstname.lastname@example.org> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
"Nothing at all," intoned Marvin dismally, "not an electronic sausage."
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