[linux-elitists] LOCAL Stanford University: face down the DMCA enforcers (fwd)

Eugen Leitl eugen@leitl.org
Sun Jan 19 04:33:31 PST 2003

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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:10:08 -0800 (GMT)
From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
To: cypherpunks@lne.com
Subject: RE: [linux-elitists] LOCAL Stanford University: face down the  
    DMCA enforcers (fwd)

Based on Larry Augustin's apology for cops and his avowed closeness to
them, a protest is even more deserved against him if not the other

Larry appears to be quoting from the COPS PR manual for garnering public
support to offset deserved criticism of official misbehavior.

Larry is not alone in seeing the lucrative benefits of defending the giant
law enforcement and national security industries, why you can read the
turncoats all around the world of digital opportunity going on about the
need for vigilance on the dangerous Net and worse, advocating prowling
Intel-inside private computers networks to spot looming threats.

As just one example see Counterpane's recent crowing about success, one of
its lengthening series of warnings about the need for more and more
security against the dangerous digital hordes, and less and less warnings
about the need to protect against official and commercial invaders who are
handing out lucrative contracts to Net security firms and professionals.

Nothng like a fat bribe to convert pagans to organized terrorists
screaming beware the sinners. Hmm, wasn't St. Augustine a prime role model
for that crossover, as if Larry Augustin is a namesake.

To be sure, informers are best recruited from the pagans for they know how
to magnify the hazards of their clan.

At 12:00 PM 1/19/2003 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>Hold your fire for a moment. Could be hitting the wrong ones.
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>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:25:10 -0800
>From: Larry M. Augustin <lma@lmaugustin.com>
>To: linux-elitists@zgp.org
>Cc: 'Don Marti' <dmarti@zgp.org>, 'Karsten M. Self' <kmself@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: RE: [linux-elitists] LOCAL Stanford University: face down the DMCA
>    enforcers
>I think that it would be a big mistake to do anything that might be viewed
>as even the slightest bit disruptive in this venue.  Further, I think you're
>jumping to conclusions to assume that the DMCA is relevant to these
>Dennis Allison and John Wharton, both of whom I have known for years, are
>sympathetic to free software and sympathetic to the problems with the DMCA.
>Dennis regularly brings in Bruce, Eric, and Richard as speakers.  I've
>spoken at this seminar on 2 or 3 occasions.  Bruce was just there a few
>weeks ago talking about the RAND vs. RF patent policy issues.
>Cops have a tough job.  They deserve our thanks for doing a tough job.  I
>have a number of close friends who are cops.  I think they deserve more
>benefit of doubt than "Target the _speakers_ and _philosophy_".  It doesn't
>sound like these are people that write the laws or make policy.  Maybe they
>spend their time fighting real computer crime like identity theft and
>crackers.  They deserve our support in that job.
>Has anyone talked to Dennis?  Before jumping to any conclusions, or
>organizing any kind of protest or demonstration, talk to Dennis.

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