[linux-elitists] LOCAL Stanford University: face down the DMCA enforcers

Larry M. Augustin lma@lmaugustin.com
Sun Jan 19 00:25:10 PST 2003

I think that it would be a big mistake to do anything that might be viewed
as even the slightest bit disruptive in this venue.  Further, I think you're
jumping to conclusions to assume that the DMCA is relevant to these

Dennis Allison and John Wharton, both of whom I have known for years, are
sympathetic to free software and sympathetic to the problems with the DMCA.
Dennis regularly brings in Bruce, Eric, and Richard as speakers.  I've
spoken at this seminar on 2 or 3 occasions.  Bruce was just there a few
weeks ago talking about the RAND vs. RF patent policy issues.

Cops have a tough job.  They deserve our thanks for doing a tough job.  I
have a number of close friends who are cops.  I think they deserve more
benefit of doubt than "Target the _speakers_ and _philosophy_".  It doesn't
sound like these are people that write the laws or make policy.  Maybe they
spend their time fighting real computer crime like identity theft and
crackers.  They deserve our support in that job.

Has anyone talked to Dennis?  Before jumping to any conclusions, or
organizing any kind of protest or demonstration, talk to Dennis.


on Friday, January 17, 2003 6:46 PM Karsten M. Self wrote
> on Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 05:08:47PM -0800, Don Marti (dmarti@zgp.org)
> wrote:
> > Richard Stallman just passed this along to me.  I won't be around,
> > since I'll be in New York for LinuxWorld, but someone else might
> > want to organize a group of freedom-loving people to go and hand
> > out some anti-DMCA flyers, ask good questions, and so on.
> >
> > "How can you enforce laws that ban Academic Freedom in computer
> > science and then walk into a university and ask for help?"
> >
> > Remember, protests and demonstrations are GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH.
> Note that the CSL Colloquia are a great opportunity to meet with all
> sorts of folks on all aspects of technology.  The faculty, particularly
> John Wharton, are very aware that they offer an opening for the public,
> and the range of viewpoints presented is large (Lessig spoke at the CSL
> a year ago).
> Target the _speakers_ and _philosophy_, not the program itself.
> That said -- go forth and make a joyous noise ;-)
> >
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20021223/hl_nm/protests
> _demonstrations_dc
> >
> >
> >                  4:15PM, Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003
> >        NEC Auditorium, Gates Computer Science Building B03
> >                    http://ee380.stanford.edu[1]
> >
> > Topic:    Solving High Technology Crime
> >           Academic Partnership in Crime Fighting
> >
> > Speaker:  Gregory S. Crabb
> >           United States Postal Inspector
> >           San Francisco Electronic Crimes Task Force
> >
> > Other participants include:
> > Robert Rodriguez, Assistant Special Agent in Charge, United
> > States Secret Service
> > Richard Perlotto, Cisco Systems
> > Chris Lalone, Network Security, eBay
> > Mike Miravalle, CEO, Dolphin Technologies
> > Fred Demma, Dolphon Technologyies
> <...>
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