[linux-elitists] GNOME > you

Nick Moffitt nick@zork.net
Wed Dec 31 17:22:41 PST 2003

begin  Jeff But don't get all fretty-pants on us. Weff  quotation:
> <quote who="Karsten M. Self">
> > That's an attitudinal death spiral.  Your own current satisfaction
> > with the project appears to be directly at odds with its stated
> > goals.

	Okay, so you're basically saying exactly what I did when I
said that Jeff was full of shit for claiming that GNOME was all about
non-unix-weenie types.  You're just saying it in a way that tries to
be +00 31337 4 GN0M3.

> It turns out, that coders and productive geeks actually care more
> about what they're doing than how they're doing it - just like those
> "normal" people.  But they can only reach that point by dipping
> their toes in the water. That is what we want to see happen with
> GNOME. Right now, you're hooked on all the "how I do it" stuff, but
> with a taste of the usability kool-aid, and the realisation that you
> just want to get shit done, suddenly it all starts to make sense.
> You're treating the computer the same way your Mum does. Great.

	Put another way, inflexibility is the biggest symptom of the
clueless wrote user.  Many just mask it by PGP-signing their e-mails
to look cool.

> It is not that we don't listen to developers (and I would add
> "geeks"), but we understand that they are a fundamentally miniscule
> minority in the global audience of computer users. Their input is
> interesting, but doesn't have a strong representative quality when
> you're looking at solving the Greatest Common Factor problems (*NOT*
> the Lowest Common Denominator).

	Yeah, well, gconf still needs work to take the suck out.  Deal.

	Karsten just sits there with his helpless wrote user
non-skills and says "I can't even take the nonsense word
TWKWIWKWIKAIWETHEYYOUMESOMETHING out of a Web page title!  You can't
expect me to learn to code!  I'd probably get the patch backward
anyway!"  So instead of trying to start a project to make a gconf
back-end that isn't totally cone-headed, he bitches about the
"attitude" of the GNOME people.  Rather like whining on SVLUG that the
LUG is there to "help people".

> Happy "still no flying cars yet" New Year,

	Oh ghod.  Are they still trying that?  I shudder to think at
what the American landscape would look like once they abandoned the
areas they've been paving bland for 50 years.


"Forget the damned motor car and build cities for lovers and friends."
	-- Lewis Mumford


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