[linux-elitists] solving the Yahoogroups spam problem

Eugen Leitl eugen@leitl.org
Fri Apr 5 00:51:55 PST 2002

I need some advice. 

Background is Yahoo's changed privacy policy (see below for context).
Because of this I'm moving all my lists to my private host, but there are
a few lists I don't own but care about I would like to offer an ad-free,
*stable* noncommercial alternative to migrate to. This involves the WTA
(20-odd lists), smartdrugs, digitalphilosophy, and a couple of others.

My current host is <http://phpwebhosting.com> which is great value for
money ($9.99/month) but has a few stupid limitations (qmail/ezmlm, no POP3
boxes if allowed full control of bernsteinware, etc). Since I don't have
my own colo box up yet which would solve all their hosting problems for
good, but would like to help a few Yahoogroups users migrate to a painless
*long-term stable* MailMan based architecture I welcome any suggestions.

Eugen Leitl

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 15:27:51 -0800
From: John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>
Subject: Yahoo Groups spam alert

Yahoo has apparently made a sneaky change to the "Marketing Preferences" of
all subscribers to mailing lists on yahoogroups.com, changing all their
"No's" to "Yes".  The result will be not only a load of spam, but also junk
mail and even junk phone calls if your address or phone number are on file
with Yahoo.

To change them back: Go to Yahoo Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com) and sign
in.  Go to My Groups and click on Account Info, verify your password if it
asks you to, and your Yahoo ID card comes up.  Click on 'Edit your Marketing
Preferences' and change all those Yes's back to No's.  Click Save Changes.


Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:44:39 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Yahoo users fume over "spam" switch

Yahoo users fume over "spam" switch, By Jim Hu, CNET News.com, 29 Mar 2002

Some Yahoo members on Friday reacted angrily to changes in the Web portal's
e-mail marketing practices, comparing the company's revised policy to an
open invitation to spam.

"I never received any notification about this from Yahoo," one annoyed
reader wrote in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "I was merely lucky enough to
have a friend warn me about it."

The ire stems from changes in Yahoo's "marketing preferences" page, which
the company uses to secure permission to send service promotions. Along with
other changes to the page, Yahoo said it had reset the default preferences
for all members in a way that would require them to manually request that
the company block the messages in the future--even if they had declined to
accept such e-mail in the past.  ...




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