[linux-elitists] ICANN frenzy!

Ben Woodard ben@valinux.com
Mon Mar 5 16:05:12 PST 2001

I guess in general, I think that DNS is a real mess and I know this is
an unpopular opinion held by extremely few people but I would like to
see the domain system contract.

If I were the ICANN absolute dictator. Here is what I would do:

I would make it so that a company could get exactly 1 dot com address
and then everything else was a subdomain. Within their domain, they
could do anything that they wanted. Think about what this would do:

1) The number of domains would contract to a comparitively small
2) Trademarks would be represented under the domain of the corporate
owner and companies wouldn't have the right to demand trademark.com
just because they own trademark.
3) The root name servers would get a lot less work.
4) We could easily see which companies have different virtual
5) Their would be room in the DNS for good names.
6) It would make blocking by domain name much easier. Spammers, the
like would be much easier to block.
7) People would slowly be trained not to associate DNS name with

I wouldn't let individuals own dot com addresses. However, single
individuals who have a fictional entity registered under which they
are doing business then they could own a .com.

I think that I would keep the country TLD's exactly the way that they

.org's would have to be registered organizations. This is not
necessarily a tax status but a .org would have to have a charter and

.net would be ISP's and backbone providers.

I would also add one TLD, .ind. This would be for individuals and it
would have special rules. Every human being, would be entitled to one
free domain under .ind with their name and a something that makes them
unique. For example I might be:


Where "foof" is some string that makes me unique amongst the whole
world of "alfred.benjamin.woodard.ind". That
foof.alfred.benjamin.woodard domain would be my birthright, my
personal property for all time and I would be able to subdomain it and
do whatever I want with it for my whole life.


P.S. Don if you are perverse enough to want to quote me, go ahead.

> DNS is a consensus reality, but some people's consensus reality is more
> fucked up than others. I know that some of you on this list are ICANN
> members, and some (all?) of you have .org domains. What do you all think
> about this?  If it's ok to quote you in LJ please let me know.
> (I know I don't want to get non-profit status to keep _my_ .org...)
> http://www.icann.org/melbourne/proposed-verisign-agreements-topic.htm
> ----- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> -----
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:07:17 -0500
> From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
> Subject: FC: Why are ICANN-crats talking about evicting .org owners?
> To: politech@politechbot.com
> Cc: comments@icann.org
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> This is very dangerous terrain for ICANN to enter. If ICANN forcibly evicts 
> owners of dot-org domains, any remaining goodwill it has in the Internet 
> community will evaporate. It -- and perhaps the Commerce Department -- will 
> also be exposed to litigation, all for a proposal with uncertain benefits, 
> and one that is being floated approximately five years too late.
> This in reference to:
> http://www.politechbot.com/p-01774.html
> >Icann indicated that it wants "org" Web addresses reserved only for
> >nonprofit organizations "after some appropriate transition period," a
> >restriction that hasn't been enforced in recent years. Details haven't been
> >worked out, though one Icann official suggested that current "org" Web sites
> >may be allowed to continue regardless of their affiliation with nonprofits.
> Also, Michael Froomkin emails me noting that icannwatch.org has been 
> relaunched.
> -Declan
> ***********
> From: "Thomas Leavitt" <thomasleavitt@hotmail.com>
> To: declan@well.com
> Cc: comments@icann.org
> Subject: Fwd: FC: Verisign will surrender control of .org and .net, by Ted 
> Bridis
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:50:14 -0800
> Declan,
> HEY! I don't like the idea at all that some goddamn bureaucrat may 
> post-facto decide that I don't have the rights to my personal web site, 
> www.internetmanifesto.org, because I'm not a "non-profit organization".
> Furthermore: I don't think that requirement has *ever* been "enforced".
> Not to mention them challenging my ownership of "space.org", either - I've 
> had that for nearly half a decade, with content up (of varying currency) 
> during that entire period. That represents a substantial investment (in the 
> thousands of dollars) over that period!
> There are tens of thousands of people out there with personal, 
> non-commercial web sites in the .org domain - ICANN will have a huge 
> shitstorm on their hands if they don't immediately, unconditionally 
> guarantee that all current owners of .org domains may retain the right to 
> use them, regardless of their non-profit status. I will personally make 
> their life hell until they do so!
> Furthermore, I think the whole idea of enforcing this requirement is 
> ludicrous... there are a ton of non-commericial activities of all sorts who 
> will be rendered homeless, or forced to assume a .com identity, even if 
> they don't want one, by this policy. Things are working fine just now, why 
> try and fix something that isn't broken, when so much else is?
> ICANN: I demand a formal statement from your organization, post-haste, 
> unconditionally guaranteeing that no action will be taken to require 
> existing domain name holders in the .org TLD to do anything to justify 
> their continued ownership of these domain names, now, or in the future.
> Regards,
> Thomas Leavitt
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