[linux-elitists] OK, I went off today

Deirdre Saoirse deirdre@deirdre.net
Wed Jul 28 23:45:20 PDT 1999

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Heather wrote:

> 1) Its line lengths are wider than my screen in a few places.

I was gonna html it when I got done.

> 2) Very eloquent description of how you feel, but I'm not sure it will
>    convince them.  

Nor am I. It wasn't really designed to persuade. I've sent them THOUSANDS
of hits over the years.

>    Partly this is because, reading this, I'm not sure what is valuable to 
>    them.  And if they don't know either, it will be very difficult indeed 
>    to get them off the fence enough to choose to Do The Right Thing.

Well, for starters, my professor has agreed to accept my work in plain

>    I hope your appeal to reason works, rather than merely causing them
>    to correct their web pages so it no longer mentions telnet'ing in.

One hopes.

> 3) I wonder if they will accept your offer to re-do the interface in Python.
>    I suspect, however, that they will not raed it in sufficient detail to
>    find that.

Actually, the programmer tried to reach me by phone and then sent an
email. He's willing to work with me, but suspects it was my *professor's*
restriction to certain mime types that might be the problem. We'll
probably work together over the phone to solve it.

> 4) You forgot to mention the opensource spreadsheet and slideshow formats
>    they could theoretically accept, if they weren't busy kissy-kissying
>    up to M$.  Especially the non-roprietary formats which MS-foo could
>    easily produce.  Heck, you wouldn't even need fancy MIME to send a 
>    magicpoint slide file, though it would help if you wanted charts and 
>    similar bs.

Well, I wasn't going to bring up anything more complicated than allowing
open formats.

> Did they claim that you could complete a whole curriculum through them, or
> make any special noises originally about accessibility?  Maybe there is 
> some association that could cause more trouble for them than one annoyed
> customer.

Well, wait until I post all the notes from my accessibility-impaired
friends. Thus far, two blind friends and one mute friend (he's not deaf,
but a bout with encephalitis left him unable to form speech) have agreed
to write supporting letters.

> BTW, possibly applicable recent quote from lynx-dev:
> >>>> weenies who...
> >>> what weenies?
> >> weenies = web editors who assume that every browser in the world
> >> offers auto-submit, so they don't code up a submit button.
> > Real weenies use javascript so their forms cannot submit properly at all.

Heh. :)

_Deirdre   *   http://www.linuxcabal.net   *   http://www.deirdre.net
Indeed, when I design my killer language, the identifiers "foo" and "bar"
will be reserved words, never used, and not even mentioned in the 
reference manual.  Any program using one will simply dump core without 
comment. Multitudes will rejoice. -- Tim Peters

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